Today I am trying to get Roux more comfortable on the dog stand. I have a feeling all his FF was done on or much was. He takes the stand as bad lace to be and is very leary of getting on it. If you are accustomed to duck hunting in north Texas public water with your dog and hunt in timber or really anyplace standing in water you need a dog stand. As you can see he loves birds but he has a misguided attitude to the least amount of pressure ( Voice, E collar etc.). He can do the work nicely but has to totally see the light at end of tunnel. Many doges are like this pup you have to become a team and pup needs to trust in the training. Here is a page describing this